"I'm glad you're doing this – but it would not work for us." A sentence that Thomas Bräm , founder of mitschaffe.ch, hears often. In an interview with Alexandra Gastpar from HR Campus, he disagrees: Inclusion is possible. It's not a question of if, but how. As the founder of mitschaffe.ch, he shows how job carving makes it easier for people with disabilities to enter the primary labour market, thereby enriching companies and society as a whole. With a job coach, genuine commitment and the courage to see things from a new perspective, he creates diversity that works.